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THE NCAA RULES COMMITTEE HAS ISSUED THE "DEATH OF THE DIVE SHOT" IN COLLEGE LAX. WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THE ISSUE?
I think they need to sit down and discuss this rule again. I play atack adn i would much rather dive into the crease than get the crap knocked out of me by some defender. I agree that this rule might help protect the goalie but it meens allot more injuries to the other attacking players. - Zoeb
I think it sucks. The dive should come back!
We're just a couple of guys, playin' high school lacrosse in the MIAA. We love lacrosse just as much as the next guy. We also love to watch old highlight reels from past NCAA games. The Gait brothers, The Powells, the Cordiscos, and many others who made this game great. The dive needs to come back, its like the slam dunk of basketball, the bicycle kick of soccer, and the 900 in skateboarding. Maybe it is hard for the refs or its dangerous. What the hell is going on in the NCAA its almost as bad as the PGA tour changing the rules of the game for one player. The NCAA is slowly destroying the sport of lacrosse. It takes away one of the most spectacular and exciting elements of the game. It doesn't take away from our love of the game but it sure as hell pisses us off, EVERY TIME OUR ATTACK WORKS THEIR ASS OFF TO SCORE AND THE GOAL GETS TAKEN AWAY. BRING BACK THE DIVE!
I think taking out the dive from lacrosse is terrible and takes away from the overall excitment of the game. -Aubrey Morin
I think that the death of the dive sucks. Some of the best goals that I've seen in college lacrosse games came off of dives. It's almost become an omen for lacrosse. SAVE THE DIVE! Alex Mansfield
Hello, my name is Nick Redanty and I play lacrosse for SUNY Geneseo. I am in favor of the "No Dive" rule but I have one concern. This past season I noticed that the refs didn't consistantly make the same call when a player stepped into the crease. I was wondering if the refs would be counseled or even re-trained on the subject at hand before next season. I think it would make a large difference if all of the refs were on the same page. Thank you for your time Sincerely Nick Redanty
i think that the dive should be reinstated in college ball. some times in ncaa games the pace of the game get slowed way down because of a offensive set-up. i think crease dives help put excitement in the game. plus, if you have the chance to take a dive it gets you really pumped!
At first I did not like the new rule. Moving from high school, were I had used the move everyday to DIII I thought that I was finished. Now that I am a midi the rule does effect me in the same way but I see a need for refinement. If a player shoots with all parts of his body outside the cylindar of the crease, but after the goal is scored he enters the cylindar then the goal should count. As a midi I have had to pull some arobatic manuevers to stay out of the crease after running full steam down field. Other than just looking stupid it could cause a player injury if they more concentrated about staying out of the crease than paying attention to where their body is in space. - Eric Krause
The whole issue with "killing the dive" is driven by two factors... Safety of the goalie, and the "Air Gait" effect. Probably more the latter. The NCAA had no problem prior to Gait's appearance in the show. Dude takes the dive to a new level, and so all the kids start trying it. Little Johnny trys it in a game and ends up as part of the cage, parents start to freak out from the punk's injuries, coaches get bent out of shape, and ask the NCAA to do something to stop the trend. Problem is, its not there responsibility to deter the dive. Its the coaches and players job to avoid it if its not warranted. I've been on the receiving end of a dive countless times. As a goalie, I'm not all that appreciative of having someone land on me to score, but it happens. Any goalie should just accept it as part of the game and enjoy cross checking the off balance, airborne, tackling dummy when possible(Aim for the gut). This is just like the "skate in the crease rule" hockey had, so treat it the same. Make it a non release penalty if you land on the keeper and null the goal or if the shooter doesn't score and lands in anywhere in the crease, clear the ball at midfield. This is not rocket science. Save the Dive. - Eric
I think that it was a terrible decision to ban the dive shot. This should be changed!!!
I think that the death of the dive is the best thing that u can do to save a goal if the goalie is not in the net at the time of the shot. I am on the varsity lacrosse team for Edina Minnesota and i saved a shot today by diving to get in the way cause the goalie just went after a shot and i took it for the team. but the way to go is to dive to save the goal. Alex
I have a brilliant idea everyone. Let's take away the slam dunk in basketball and stealing bases in baseball. Or maybe officials are satisfied with taking away lacrosse's most exciting play. Diving into the crease lasts only a second but it brings momentum to the scoring team. It also makes the defenseman respect his opponent more and play better defense. Instead, the attackman has to stop himself 5 ft short of the net and make sure that he doesn't touch the crease. There are plenty of tough calls in every sport, including lacrosse so refs should just call the crease as they see it. And goalies usually aren't the ones to get hurt when someone dives into the crease. Last year over the summer I thought I was knocked out when I smashed into the goalie's knee. But that's a risk most attackman are willing to take for an inthecrease goal. SAVE THE DIVE!!!!!
I like to view lacrosse as a pure sport. The only major changes to the sport have been to better competetion. This new rule has taken away from that goal. I have played defense and goalie for many years. Like any other position if there is a flaw in the game, it is up to the coaches and players to create a scheme to protect him. This is a rough sport, don't start treating goalies as quarterbacks like the NFL. The risk of injury is great for anyone at anytime on the field. To many changes like this and we might as well be playing women's lacrosse. A player, a coach, and a fan of the game. SAVE THE DIVE!!!!!!
I think they are eventually going to take all the fun out of life just because there is a hint of danger. Its rediculous and I think if you can get in the crease without getting hit by a 250 lb defenseman, and score it should be allowed. Chris Martino Vance High School Lacrosse Coach Charlotte NC
I think it is crazy that they took the DIVE out of the game. I'm a Middy so I did'nt really utilize the dive, but it was a big part of our attack's game, Brian
After reading the wording on the ruling made by the NCAA, I did notice one hope left for "the Dive" to still work. The rule says you connot dive into the crease, but it says nothing about diving outside the crease. While some players may not think this is as exciting, I feel it would still work. As a player who has seen it many times, a diving player shooting at the same time throws a goalie off. Because the body and the ball are at unusual angles the goalie has a harder time tracking the shot and anticipating where it may go. Th Dive may still work the same way, just don't dive into the crease but just outside of it. If you don't enter the crease you aren't in violation of the rules as they are written. DL
i think its about time that goalies and defense get a break. i played box lacrosse in the 70's and early 80's and if you landed in the crease, the goal was disallowed... if there is a problem with lacrosse, its that there is too much scoring. the deck is stacked in the offense's favor. in my opinion, the death of the dive is something that should have happened a long time ago. i also congratulate the person that put in a shot clock... i love the fact that an ivy league school can compete with a major college sports program, but if i watched Princeton put on the big stall early in the second half just one more time, i was going to give up on lacrosse. with apologies to the gates and the other flying walendas, i like the changes, its a step towards making one of my favorite sports a more viable product. - Rick Beardsley, philadelphia, pa
Here in Canada were I play mostly box lacrosse the crease is off limates to players, but I do play some feild I love flying through the air a scoreing a highlight real goal, and I could just amagen all the goals I would have to give up if that rule was in play here. Chris fox
The dive was an important part of the game. I don't believe that it jeopardized anyone, and it added excitement.
I think the death of the dive really hurt the game. When I started to watch the game one of the most exiting things to watch was seeing attackmen hurl themselves in front of the crease.
Bring back the dive! There was no call for the NCAA to remove the diving shot, other than that they have nothing better to do. How dare they defile any sport, and its more glorious traditions. What was this commitee made up of, bitter goalies of days past? The dive is something beautiful, almost poetic. Whats next? Craddling? Zac Stred
Diving in the crease is the best thing in lacrosse since the plastic head. It is a big fan attracter and that is what lacrosse needs(especially in places like Texas, i know i live there). Highlight films will be lacking some great plays without the crease dive.
I think the new "Dive Rule" is bad for the sport. Much of the growth and increased popularity of lacrosse in the late eighties and early nineties was a result of moves like the "Air Gait" and the Dive. What's next, are they going to get rid of behind-the-back passes. If I wanted to see a couple dozen lame passes followed by an outside shot I'd be watching women's basketball. The Dive and other such extreme shots make the game what it is today and distinguishes it from what it was twenty years ago. Bring it back. Greg Columbus, OH
I have played mid-field, defense, and goalie, and there is no reason why the rule should be taken away. if you are a goalie and you dumb enough to stand there and let people shoot at you what is the harmin letting dive at the goal. somebody did that in a recent lacrosse game i played in and our goalie killed the kid, needless to say the kid didn't do it again. It's one of the most exciting moves in lacrosse, it was the Gate brothers moves and they are the two people who have alot to do with what lacrosse is today. Its exciting i used to go watch the wings just to see gate do it. It was amazing even my mom and dad got excited and they hate lacrosse because it is so violent. Lacrosse is a violent game and your going to get hurt so if you can't take it play a pussy sport like baseball or tennis and get off the field, bring back the dive rule. Their is no reason to rid lacrosse of one of the most exciting moves. Bring back the excitment. And as for the referees having to make a tough call, they can't make them to begin with so its not going to make a difference. Craig A.H.S. Lacrosse go ghosts
Okay, I'm a goalie for a college club team in North Carolina (a state where lax is virtually unknown except to us transplants...and UNC students). On one hand, I think The Dive is one of the most exciting moves in lacrosse, and it's stupid that they banned it. Unfortunately, I've been then landing pad for many attackmen while they crash into me. I think the NCAA had the right idea, but took it a little too far. Having players diving into the crease isn't at all a bad thing. It's when they're running into goalies that makes it not too cool. Perhaps change the rule so that contact w/ the goalie consitutes a rule infraction? Just a thought - Ken Childs
If the NCAA is worried that goalie's and shooters will be hurt by the possible collision of a dive, then they should implement a rule that states that a player may not jumps toward the goalie when the shooter lifts his feet. Thus his intentions would not be to injure the goalie while scoring, but trying to buy some more space and time for a shot. Also, the goalie may not try intentionally hurt the diving shooter; charge at him in mid air if the shooter is not heading towards the goalie. Watching the dive always amazes me and I do not want to see it lost. SAVE THE DIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ANDREW O'CONNELL-SHEVENELL, PORTLAND, MAINE.
The new rule is complete bull****! Think about a guy like Doug Knight who became a well known player because of this shot. It adds flair to the game and makes lacrosse more exciting for the fans to watch. I have heard that the reason that they made this rule was because it was too hard for the refs to make the call. If reffing a lacrosse game is too hard for them maybe they should find a new job. Another reason I heard they took away the dive is because it is too dangerouse and I think it is no more dangerouse than diving over the goal line in football. - Kevin Boland
I'm a mite level goalie so not to much of that anyway. But they want to attempt a dangurus shot like that let'em. I say bring back the dive.
Personally I feel that no lacrosse player would actually go for killing the dive, it seems so very Unamerican to me to kill the dive. What is so bad about the dive anyway? It is a crowd pleaser, and lacrosse could use some larger crowds, especially in Texas, where nobody even knows about lacrosse. There are so many people that don't realize how incredibly awsome the sport is. So I feel that we must save the dive at all costs!!!!
Taking away the dive shot is stupid, its been around forever and they just decide to take it away now. Why did they do that?
i have played d since my first game, and the dive shot is one of the hardestr to defend. that why i love it so much, there is no greater way to prove your worth, than to not let them get close enough to pull on off. save the dive, .... booker
Personally, I think that making the new "Doug Knight" diving in the crease rule is the worst rule in the game today. It gives the goaltender an unfair advantage because the shooter is sometimes distracted while in a tight situation with the goalie. The game should be played as naturally as possible. I'm sorry, but it was the goalie's choice to sit in the goal. It does not make sense to me that goalies can sit in front of shots reaching speeds sometimes greater than 100 MPH, but when a player lands in the crease after is a shot, there needs to be a huge debate. Even while I watched the final four this year, I saw great players almost walking a tightrope around the crease after they shot, so they could not be called for the new violaiton. This is a horrible new rule, and should be destroyed ASAP. Wes Fetchet New Canaan, CT
I think that this thing you are doing is awesome. The dive is/was the greatest move in lacrosse. Being a player myself I used to love to pull it off. Let's work hard and bring it back.
Dumbest rule ever made...the dive shows who wants in and has heart, and is not scared to get hurt for a goal
This rule is one I would definately have to argue over. It's been said to have been put into place for safety reasons. It is supposed to make the goalie safer but what about the attacking players. When someone is taking the ball to the cage and is around the crease it is apparent that some 6'2 giant defender is rushing at you to hit you right off the field. A safe and stategic move is to dive into the crease, score a goal and avoid your head being caved in by a defender. In my opinion I think it is less likely that a goalie is going to be severly injured by a player falling into him while trying to score oppposed to a defender in full sprint plowing into an attacking player as he is trying to avoid the crease. I do believe this issue is a matter of safety but whose safety? Is this rule making one player safer while making another a target? -Ginny
I think taking out the dive from lacrosse is terrible and takes away from the overall excitment of the game. -Aubrey Morin
Hello, my name is Nick Redanty and I play lacrosse for SUNY Geneseo. I am in favor of the "No Dive" rule but I have one concern. This past season I noticed that the refs didn't consistantly make the same call when a player stepped into the crease. I was wondering if the refs would be counseled or even re-trained on the subject at hand before next season. I think it would make a large difference if all of the refs were on the same page. -Nick Redanty
Another striving for mediocrity take excitement out of the game rule. No wonder schools are dropping the game. The NCAA remembers UNH don't they? SAVE THE DIVE. -Rory Morse class 2001 Falmouth High School MA
I think it is crazy that they took the DIVE out of the game. I'm a Middy so I did'nt really utilize the dive, but it was a big part of our attack's game. -Brian
After reading the wording on the ruling made by the NCAA, I did notice one hope left for "the Dive" to still work. The rule says you connot dive into the crease, but it says nothing about diving outside the crease. While some players may not think this is as exciting, I feel it would still work. As a player who has seen it many times, a diving player shooting at the same time throws a goalie off. Because the body and the ball are at unusual angles the goalie has a harder time tracking the shot and anticipating where it may go. Th Dive may still work the same way, just don't dive into the crease but just outside of it. If you don't enter the crease you aren't in violation of the rules as they are written. -DL
I think its about time that goalies and defense get a break. I played box lacrosse in the 70's and early 80's and if you landed in the crease, the goal was disallowed... if there is a problem with lacrosse, its that there is too much scoring. The deck is stacked in the offense's favor. In my opinion, the death of the dive is something that should have happened a long time ago. I also congratulate the person that put in a shot clock... I love the fact that an ivy league school can compete with a major college sports program, but if I watched Princeton put on the big stall early in the second half just one more time, I was going to give up on lacrosse. With apologies to the Gaits and the other flying walendas, I like the changes, its a step towards making one of my favorite sports a more viable product. -Rick Beardsley of Philadelphia, PA
I think that this thing you are doing is awesome. The dive is/was the greatest move in lacrosse. Being a player myself I used to love to pull it off. Let's work hard and bring it back. -A reader
I'm a mite level goalie so not to much of that anyway. But they want to attempt a dangurus shot like that let'em. I say bring back the dive. -Art
Personally I feel that no lacrosse player would actually go for killing the dive, it seems so very Unamerican to me to kill the dive. What is so bad about the dive anyway? It is a crowd pleaser, and lacrosse could use some larger crowds, especially in Texas, where nobody even knows about lacrosse. There are so many people that don't realize how incredibly awsome the sport is. So I feel that we must save the dive at all costs! -A reader
Taking away the dive shot is stupid, its been around forever and they just decide to take it away now. Why did they do that? -A Reader
I have played d since my first game, and the dive shot is one of the hardestr to defend. That's why I love it so much, there is no greater way to prove your worth, than to not let them get close enough to pull on off. Save the dive! -Booker
Personally, I think that making the new "Doug Knight" diving in the crease rule is the worst rule in the game today. It gives the goaltender an unfair advantage because the shooter is sometimes distracted while in a tight situation with the goalie. The game should be played as naturally as possible. I'm sorry, but it was the goalie's choice to sit in the goal. It does not make sense to me that goalies can sit in front of shots reaching speeds sometimes greater than 100 MPH, but when a player lands in the crease after is a shot, there needs to be a huge debate. Even while I watched the final four this year, I saw great players almost walking a tightrope around the crease after they shot, so they could not be called for the new violaiton. This is a horrible new rule, and should be destroyed ASAP. -Wes Fetchet of New Canaan, CT
At first I did not like the new rule. Moving from high school, were I had used the move everyday to DIII I thought that I was finished. Now that I am a midi the rule does effect me in the same way but I see a need for refinement. If a player shoots with all parts of his body outside the cylindar of the crease, but after the goal is scored he enters the cylindar then the goal should count. As a midi I have had to pull some arobatic manuevers to stay out of the crease after running full steam down field. Other than just looking stupid it could cause a player injury if they more concentrated about staying out of the crease than paying attention to where their body is in space. -Eric Krause
Dumbest rule ever made...the dive shows who wants in and has heart, and is not scared to get hurt for a goal. -Ron
I play defense and the dive was an exciting part of the game. Killing it gave me less of a challenge while guarding an attackman at X. However I would say save the dive, especially if lacrosse is ever going to be a popular American sport.
If the NCAA is worried that goalie's and shooters will be hurt by the possible collision of a dive, then they should implement a rule that states that a player may not jumps toward the goalie when the shooter lifts his feet. Thus his intentions would not be to injure the goalie while scoring, but trying to buy some more space and time for a shot. Also, the goalie may not try intentionally hurt the diving shooter; charge at him in mid air if the shooter is not heading towards the goalie. Watching the dive always amazes me and I do not want to see it lost. SAVE THE DIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - ANDREW O'CONNELL - SHEVENELL, PORTLAND, MAINE.
I think they are eventually going to take all the fun out of life just because there is a hint of danger. Its rediculous and I think if you can get in the crease without getting hit by a 250 lb defenseman, and score it should be allowed. - Chris Martino
Okay, I'm a goalie for a college club team in North Carolina (a state where lax is virtually unknown except to us transplants...and UNC students). On one hand, I think The Dive is one of the most exciting moves in lacrosse, and it's stupid that they banned it. Unfortunately, I've been then landing pad for many attackmen while they crash into me. I think the NCAA had the right idea, but took it a little too far. Having players diving into the crease isn't at all a bad thing. It's when they're running into goalies that makes it not too cool. Perhaps change the rule so that contact w/ the goalie consitutes a rule infraction? Just a thought - Ken Childs
I have played mid-field, defense, and goalie, and there is no reason why the rule should be taken away. if you are a goalie and you dumb enough to stand there and let people shoot at you what is the harmin letting dive at the goal. somebody did that in a recent lacrosse game i played in and our goalie killed the kid, needless to say the kid didn't do it again. It's one of the most exciting moves in lacrosse, it was the Gate brothers moves and they are the two people who have alot to do with what lacrosse is today. Its exciting i used to go watch the wings just to see gate do it. It was amazing even my mom and dad got excited and they hate lacrosse because it is so violent. Lacrosse is a violent game and your going to get hurt so if you can't take it play a pussy sport like baseball or tennis and get off the field, bring back the dive rule. Their is no reason to rid lacrosse of one of the most exciting moves. Bring back the excitment. And as for the referees having to make a tough call, they can't make them to begin with so its not going to make a difference. Craig
I think the new "Dive Rule" is bad for the sport. Much of the growth and increased popularity of lacrosse in the late eighties and early nineties was a result of moves like the "Air Gait" and the Dive. What's next, are they going to get rid of behind-the-back passes. If I wanted to see a couple dozen lame passes followed by an outside shot I'd be watching women's basketball. The Dive and other such extreme shots make the game what it is today and distinguishes it from what it was twenty years ago. Bring it back. - Greg, Columbus, OH
Diving in the crease is the best thing in lacrosse since the plastic head. It is a big fan attracter and that is what lacrosse needs(especially in places like Texas, i know i live there). Highlight films will be lacking some great plays without the crease dive. - A Fan
I like to view lacrosse as a pure sport. The only major changes to the sport have been to better competetion. This new rule has taken away from that goal. I have played defense and goalie for many years. Like any other position if there is a flaw in the game, it is up to the coaches and players to create a scheme to protect him. This is a rough sport, don't start treating goalies as quarterbacks like the NFL. The risk of injury is great for anyone at anytime on the field. To many changes like this and we might as well be playing women's lacrosse. A player, a coach, and a fan of the game. SAVE THE DIVE!!!!!! - A Fan
Bring back the dive! There was no call for the NCAA to remove the diving shot, other than that they have nothing better to do. How dare they defile any sport, and its more glorious traditions. What was this commitee made up of, bitter goalies of days past? The dive is something beautiful, almost poetic. Whats next? Craddling? - Zac Stred (Attackman)
I think the death of the dive really hurt the game. When I started to watch the game one of the most exiting things to watch was seeing attackmen hurl themselves in front of the crease. - Lisa
I have a brilliant idea everyone. Let's take away the slam dunk in basketball and stealing bases in baseball. Or maybe officials are satisfied with taking away lacrosse's most exciting play. Diving into the crease lasts only a second but it brings momentum to the scoring team. It also makes the defenseman respect his opponent more and play better defense. Instead, the attackman has to stop himself 5 ft short of the net and make sure that he doesn't touch the crease. There are plenty of tough calls in every sport, including lacrosse so refs should just call the crease as they see it. And goalies usually aren't the ones to get hurt when someone dives into the crease. Last year over the summer I thought I was knocked out when I smashed into the goalie's knee. But that's a risk most attackman are willing to take for an in the crease goal. SAVE THE DIVE!!!!! - Milo
The dive was an important part of the game. I don't believe that it jeopardized anyone, and it added excitement. - A Fan
I think that the death of the dive is the best thing that u can do to save a goal if the goalie is not in the net at the time of the shot. I am on the varsity lacrosse team for Edina Minnesota and i saved a shot today by diving to get in the way cause the goalie just went after a shot and i took it for the team. but the way to go is to dive to save the goal. - Alex
Here in Canada were I play mostly box lacrosse the crease is off limates to players, but I do play some feild I love flying through the air a scoreing a highlight real goal, and I could just amagen all the goals I would have to give up if that rule was in play here. - Chris Fox
I think that it was a terrible decision to ban the dive shot. This should be changed!!! - A Player
I think that the death of the dive sucks. Some of the best goals that I've seen in college lacrosse games came off of dives. It's almost become an omen for lacrosse. SAVE THE DIVE! - Alex Mansfield
The new rule is complete bull****! Think about a guy like Doug Knight who became a well known player because of this shot. It adds flair to the game and makes lacrosse more exciting for the fans to watch. I have heard that the reason that they made this rule was because it was too hard for the refs to make the call. If reffing a lacrosse game is too hard for them maybe they should find a new job. Another reason I heard they took away the dive is because it is too dangerouse and I think it is no more dangerouse than diving over the goal line in football. - Kevin Boland
Diving into the crease is one of the games highlights-it should not be banned. - Tyler Treece, Upper Arlington OH.
I think that the dive gives a great aspect to the game but I play D and It gives an advantage to me - A Player
Please allow diving to be continued...It allows much more action. Also i think their is a little more danger getting smacked by a 6'4 defenderthen a collision with the goal post or ground!thanks alot. - Matt Dibella, 7 year lax player
I THINK THE CREASE DIVE IS ONE OF THE MOST EXPLOSIVE EXCITING MOVES IN SPORTS AND I THINK IT IS A SHAME YOU ARE GOING TO TAKE THIS GREAT MOVE AWAY FROM CAPABLE PLAYERS. - JUDY
I think that the death of the dive really hurt the whole lacrosse world. Many people are upset at the rule change and can you please change the rule either this year or next year. - Adam
I decided to start playing lacrosse because of the excitement. I saw the dive move and it was defenetly one of the most exciting moves I have seen in any sport. Lacrosse is becoming a huge sport across the nation because it is exciting. If your going to take away the dive because it is dangerous then you might as well take away checking. A fan
I play attack, and I think they should bring back the dive I really weanted to score that way in this league i would but never got too. But I was planing on doing it this year. Please talk to some of the NCAA people and tell em' TO BRING THE DIVE BACK! - CM
I play D so I really don't care. - Joe Skirkie
I'm a high-school level goalie who thinks that the dive should still be in the game. The game is already rough so why not keep this aspect in the game around? - A fan
I think that it's a shame about that rule change. true it may be tough to call for officials but what about the excitement it brings to the game. I remember watching doug knight diving all over the place a few years ago in the tournament and some people we were watching the game with that did not play lax were getting as excited as I was. bring it back. - Zac
Save the Dive. The other day a I had two goals that were taken away because the new rule. The dive in lacrosse was one of the great things in lacrosse but now it doesn't exist. - Fred Bartlett
All right, concerning the "Death of the Dive," I believe that it definitley should be allowed. Myself, I am a defenseman, but I recently played goalie for two games, and I say that any goalie who is incompetent enought that they can not block it shouldn't be playing. Also, there is no previous rule that said you can not enter the crease after the ball is in the net, so the NCAA should not be making one up now. - John Shook
I play ''D'' and I still think it rots. - Robert Heartz
After recently attending the UNC vs. Princeton game, I have really seen the irrelevance in the new rule. For one reason it is like taking the slam dunk out of the game of basketball, the game is so much more fun when the dive is allowed. In the recent UNC vs. Princeton game there were probably five crease vioations called all together on both teams. There was never any injury done to any of the players, resulting from the dive, so I see no need for the rule to stand any longer. The players want it, the fans want it and a lot of the referees think it is too controversial a call, just let the dive be! - Chris McCaw
The crease dive is one of the most exciting moves on the field. Being a midfielder, I never recieved the opportunity to use the crease dive. This year my team inverted, and now I'm not permitted to use it. Bring it back for all of the midfielders, who just got their chance this year. - A player
I noticed in the games on TV this weekend (3/6-7/99, Hopkins-Princeton and Duke-Maryland)that the new dive rule not only takes away the dive but and outside or inside rolls that resulted in the potential for a dive are gone as well. The games were both 1 point differences and yet the action around the crease itself made them boring. Please bring it back! - Peter V.
As a defenseman, it is a huge advantage to us! - Chad Donnelly
The crease is a sacred place. The goalie is having balls fired on him at 50+ mph. To help insure that goalies would not get injured, no player from the other team is allowed in the crease. This should apply to after a goal is scored as well. I could dive directly at the goalie, take him out and get the ball in the goal, as long as I get the ball in before I hit the ground, I score and the goalie is hurt. Good rule, play it safe, keep the players from hurting each other (either intentionally or unintentionally). - William Schneider
I think that the move is a great move and is there for those who are athletic enough to do it. It really doesnt get you much closer to the cage, its just a good way to get by defenders. I dont think that they should get rid of the move. - Sean Connelly
I think that it sux. I am in my first year of high school and I wanted to do it so bad. - Charles Warburton
The Dive rule in College Lacrosse is one of the most exciting things there is. A goal doesn't look any better than a dive across the crease. I really think that this rule has taken away a lot of the fun. I know, I am a diver myself. If this rule doesn't become effective again soon, then this could be a huge downfall for the game. - Jeff
Get rid of the dive! The crease should be a cylinder, as in basketball; any offensive player caught dead or alive in it should have his goal disqualified. Otherwise it shouldn't take some smart coach long to figure out that a good strategy is to give the ball to a 300 lb. football offensive lineman and just let him run it in. Any attackman worth his salt who gets that close to the crease with the ball in his stick should get off a high percentage shot without jumping into the crease! - Don in VA
The dive gives a whole new aspect to the game, take it away and you take a piece of lacrosse with it. - Otakar
The infamous dive added an extra level of excitement to the game and was one of the best ways to shoot. As a highschool midfielder I fell the repercussions of the decision because Maryland highschools follow NCAA Lacrosse regulations. I had 12 "dive" goals last year and enjoyed the rush of anticipation as to whether the ball would pass the goal line before I hit. All I have to say is bring the dive back, or next thing you know there will be a no contact rule "because it's too dangerous and officials can't always make good calls on slashes and pushing." Bring It Back! - Chester Whitten IV
The dive is one of the most exciting parts about the game and for them to take it away only takes away from the excitement of the game. They said it was dangerous for the player diving but the fact is that the referees don't like having to make the call, saying whether or not he was in the crease. Also players are getting better and more inventive with their shot selection, thus making it "unfair for the goalie". Well I have one thing to say to that, Boo-Hoo. Suck it up and make the save. - J.W. a college bound Pissed off Attackmen
I think it is a bunch of crap that the NCAA is getting rid of the dive shot. What next? Are they gonna get rid of the dunk in basketball? Im sure they dont realize what a huge blow this will be to the game. What more of an awesome site could you see in lacrosse then a player dive and stick it in the net. I'm reminded of a player like doug knight from Virginia who made a living off that move. It is truly a shame that the dive is done with. The NCAA should really reconsider this decision. - Simon Creek of Canandaigua, New York
Just when Lacrosse was at it's coolest. These guys are not bright. -Billy R.
The dive is one of the best and most exciting parts about lacrosse. The NCAA comittee is a bunch of wusses. Remember, lacrosse is a contact sport, an alternate for baseball. We aren't afraid of contact. Besides, no one ever gets hurt diving into the crease. At least I've never seen or heard of any cases. The referees usually make the right calls, and most don't have to make it in a game. Now what are kids going to do instead of imitate The Gait Bro's diving into the crease? What will they have to show us now? BRING BACK THE DIVE! - Grant, Baltimore,MD,LTRC
The death of the Dive in my opinion is bad. The shot be allowed and the rule should should be restored.. - a PlaYeR Save the Dive - The dive, as it is known in lacrosse, can be a very affective shot. I myself find a sweet dive shot to be an effective motivator in a lacrosse game. However, I am a goalie and in light of the new ruling I find that the new ruling allows for a goalie of my size (6'2'' 220) to play a more aggressive game. I am currently playing for Herkimer and with the new ruling I can now leave the cage more and come up with a big hit. Before, when a player cut to the cage I had to play conservatively - always being aware of an attacker jumping around me and into the crease. Now when defensemen push players to the crease it allows for a goalie to be aggresive and try and lay a lick on the attacker. I like the new ruling due to the fact that it fits my style of play. I know many, especially crease attackmen are against the rule, however I find the new ruling suitable and would like the ruling to stand as is. I know that many do not agree with my opinion but if you look at it from a goalies point of view you may just understand why the ruling was made. - A Player
The Dive should still be allowed because it is something that makes the game great. SAVE THE DIVE.... - A fan
I think the dive is an awsome shot. I would like to try it sometime. I do not think it should have been banned. - A fan
I play defense and I think that the dive is ok. It should be allowed and not be cut out of the rules. Why Did They Remove it from the rules? - Magas
We had a game yesterday and so many goals were called back because of that dumb rule. The only people who like it are the goalies (wonder why?) I think that they should keep diving allowed. - Phil from baltimore, maryland
I think that the death of the dive will tremendously affect the game. It is folish that the rules have been changed. From an offisive point of view the game will not as exciting to watch. I think the rule sucks! - Dan Stofka
I really think that outlawing the dive is pretty stupid. The dive makes the games more exciting, and not many people get hurt diving, and even when they do, It's almost always there own fault. - Griffin Flannery
I think this new rule is stupid. Why do away with one of the most challenging and exciting parts of the game? New fans are brought in every day, and I hate to see them miss out on the coolest shot in the game. - Daniel T
I am a senior in high school. I think the dive is a great part of the game. The crowd enjoys it, they talk about it after the game. Some times you need to dive into the crease to get the goal. It is a nessesary part of the game. If people do it right they won't get hurt. That is what I think. - Mickie
I'm a huge fan of mens lacrosee, I play women's lacrosse for a division one college, but I prefer to watch a men's lax game to a women's game. Men's lacrosse is a much more exciting sport and certain aspects like the dive are pieces of the excitement that keep fans in awe. I think banning the dive restricts the players fun and the audiances fun also. I attend to games to witness great plays, and the dive is one of the greater plays I've seen. It can't be as dangerous as football players who just dive head first into each other without any point, and it surely requires more skill. So, if the NCAA wants to restrict diving, then maybe they should consider banning football or even rugby for that matter. - Vicki Fishback
Personally I think IT SUCKS that they killed the dive. Diving to score a goal was a big part of the game, whether I was doing it, watching a team-mate, or another player do it. It added a rush and made the game more exciting. Killing the dive made many of my friends and I very upset because thats how we scored majority of our goals. - Brian Fritzinger
How could the NCAA take away the greatest thing about lacrosse. The Dive is the typical "crowd pleaser" like the dunk in basketball. Being an attackman this is my favorite move and I'm sure it is to a lot of other people too. I have got about half of my goals using it. Now what am I gonna do? - Rob Miller
In my opinion, they should keep the dive. The dive is an effective move done by all players. It hasnt dont anything wrong to be taken out of the rule book, and it also helps a lot of players. If you ask me, save the dive! Lea Ann Stringer
This summer at Top Star camp "THE DIVE" really attracted coaches to watch me play, I think it gave me the opportunity to open some peoples eyes and show the coaches the other things I could do when they watched me. It's not a show boat move for me. It's an inside roll near the crease that ends with dive towards the goal. It gave me the opportunity to get to college. BRING THE DIVE BACK - Ryan Erdman
Why would the NCAA eliminate the single most exciting one on one manuever in a game. Think of all the future Doug Knights that will not be able to shine. This ruling is an atrocity to the sport. Maybe from now on shots may only be fired under 75 mph, and no behind the back passes to really spice up the game. - Albert Chou
I played D 1 at the 'cuse with Paul and Gary [Gait]. Although I played a lot of bench, I know what I am talking about. There is no question that the no dive rule is an embarrassment to the game. In fact, clearly the origin of this rule stemmed from individuals within the NCAA's or other organizations whom have very little knowledge or vision about the great game. It is scary to think that people like this can be given so much responsibility. It would be like saying you cannot step out of bounds after you catch a TD pass and get one foot in. If your momentum carries you out of bounds, no touchdown. Maybe it was a football player who came up with this new no dive rule. Who ever it was, I have a hard time believing that they know much at all about lacrosse, let alone the offensive side. Thank god we don't have to deal with that in club, or maybe we do. - George Clements
I played some attack at Washington College in 1985-1987. The "dive" was a manuvere that only a few guys pulled off. I feel that if goalie are getting injured, seriously, then ban the shot. HOWEVER - then look at goalies coming out of the crease looking to tear the head off of an attackman approaching the goal. C'mon NCAA, look at illegal recruiting or other injustices. But the dive shot? I would be ashamed to have my name on that one.- Walter Spence
I started playing lacrosse my freshman year in high school for Orchard Lakes St. Mary's in Michigan, and I'm still loving the sport. I remember last year we had a very talented forward who would always dive into the cage at least three times a game and score on nearly half of them. But this year, when I heard from my coach that they were trying to make diving into the change a penatly, it shocked me. Although diving maybe dangerous, it still gets the crowd going in a game. - Eric Venclik
Taking away "the dive" is questionable. It was the greatest recruiting image to play lacrosse. Who didn't imagine themselves diving across the crease to slam one past the goalie? We used to call it an "air-Gait" or a "Miller-express" (Bill Miller from Hobart). If we can't emulate these greats who can we emulate now that the game has become so fast? The dive ranks up there with a 10 yard upper-corner rip from the top of the box, what's next, no hitting on groundballs? The rules committee has made some good adjustments to the game but this is surprising since they made the game faster with the 10 second rule and then they remove the shot which emphasizes speed. Dom Starsia who sits on the committee had two of the best "divers" ever with Knight and Watson, what was he thinking? Hopefully they won't implement a shot clock for the field game. - Mark Hersey
I think it is inherently unfair that that rule is made. I think a player should have "freedom of choice." If he, or she, wants to dive towards the goal in an attempt to score, that is their decision. If they were afraid of or didn't want to get injured, they would not try it in the first place! The shot is also, at least to me, the coolest move in the game of lacrosse and if taken away would really deprive the sport of its "dardevilish" characteristics which make the game as fun and exiting to watch and to play as it is. - A fan
The Dive shot makes the game better Save the dive shot! - A reader
The dive is one of the trademarks of lacrosse in general. Ever since I was really small and before I could play I always saw pictures of incredible players like Paul and Gary Gait making an incredible dive into the crease to score that game winning goal. Losing the dive is like losing part of the game. - A young fan
Being a Keeper I'm glad that the NCAA has banded the "Dive"! I faced quite a few flying attackmen who dog a defenseman, run full speed, and launch their bodies headlong into me, trying to score. Don't get me wrong guys, I don't mind the actual shot. I think it as exciting as the next person. Even more exciting when (or if) I make the save. The shot itself is a tremendous challenge for a keeper, and it keeps us on our toes. However, I don't like being used to cushion landing for a flying attacker. So I would like to say thanks to the NCAA for keeping the crease alive, and helping me to stay on my feet. - JR
I am writing in response to the no dive rule implemented by the NCAA Rules committee. I will not argue your decision as you may have had reasons for the rule. However, as a current player I know how much the dive means to the game of lacrosse. I understand your concerns about safety and the difficult call that the officials must make on each dive towards the goal. But realistically speaking, the goal is a part of the game and has been a part of the game at the high school, college, and international levels for many years. Taking away an important offensive move will limit the creativity and playmaking ability of every attackman in the country. Every year, each athlete signs a release form freeing the NCAA of any liabilty towards an injury. The players know and understand the risks involved with playing lacrosse. The dive also allows the official to make a tough call. Without many controversial calls in the game of lacrosse, the officiating should be black and white. How challenging would a game be if an official didn't have to make an judgment calls involving the crease? In conclusion, I respect your decision to install the no dive rule for the upcoming Lacrosse season, However, I suggest you seriously consider abolishing the rule for the following season. Thank you. - Hansoo Jin
Diving into the goal and scoring is one of the most exciting parts of lacrosse. Its like taking away the slam dunk in basketball. It brings that much more excitment and challange to the game. - Vasto
Eliminating diving toward the net to score a goal is a major blow to lacrosse. Already losing some of the excitement, the game can not afford to lose this, probably the most exciting play in all of lacrosse. The diving shot is the slam dunk of lacrosse. This sport needs to be energized, not dulled down.
As far as the risk factor, all players are well aware of the nature of the sport. This play is no more of a danger than a football player merely running with the ball.
Please reconsider this rule change for the sake of the sport. - Brian Daniels
Why disallow a bycicle or overhead kick in soccer? Why disallow a reverse jam in basketball? Why disallow a diving catch in football? Why disallow a homerun in baseball? and finally, why disallow the dive in lacrosse? The ncaa 'rules' comittee came way out of left field on this one and lacrosse players, coaches and fans across the country are saddened by it. - Matt Corica, hightstown, NJ
As a former player and coach and current organizer of youth lacrosse, I will miss the dive. Its removal takes away a very effective move from an attackman driving from behind close to the crease; using the defensmen's pressure to duck under, spin inside and score. Removing it limits the decisions a sliding defenseman needs to make and defensive coaches are breathing a sigh of relief because they have one less thing to worry about. I understand that the call is difficult to make and that rules change from time to time, but few rule changes have removed a scoring opportunity the way this one has. Recently I played in my colleges Alumni game. I drove from behind, backed in against the defensman, spun under, dove acrosse the crease, scored and landed at the goalies feet (can anyone else hear "Glory Days"?). To my surprise, the team objected due to the rule change. A quick explanation that I, in fact, was playing by 1990 rules, the ref reconsidered and the goal counted. Could this be the last diving into the crease goal that counted? I hope not. (for me...no doubt it is. I don't remember it hurting like that.)- Doug Brisotti
I don't speak for the whole lacrosse community, mainly i speak for those of us on the field, we don't care if an official occasoinally misses the call, you can't take away the single most exciting play that happens in a lacrosse game. Do it for the players. - Rich
In my opinion this rule is necessary. If a player is in the crease, whether it is before the shot or after, it should state that there is a crease violation. By allowing the goal to count if the player lands in the crease, it is almost as if you are breaking your own rule. It is not fair to the goalies, because this is their area where no player of the opposing team is allowed to enter. With this rule being ratified it will make the offense work more to make a quality shot. In my position, defense, now, we will be able to knock the players in the crease and have the goal be disallowed instead of having the defenseman do their job well letting the attackman take one weak shot on you and fall in the crease and allow the goal to count. I persoally would like to thank the lacrosse committee for creating this rule. - Olchowski
That had to be one of the most amazing moves around and now to take that away....the game just won't be any fun. Figures just when I get the move down pat you take it away. Story of my life right there. But anyways the reason I think they changed the rule was to make sure no injuries occur during the move on the goal. Well my goalie for my team is pissed now that that is taken away. In fact, I've never seen anybody so mad in my life. - A player
I think that it should be legal because the dives are really fun and exciting. - a player
The dive is as essential to lacrosse as the dunk is to basketball. Any offensive opportunity is narrow at best. The offensive move to the goal offers defensive players ample opportunity to hit, and possibly injure. The very nature of the game of lacrosse is physical. It has been since it's beginnings as a native American sport. So please don't use the possibility of injury as a valid reason to kill the dive move because it simply is not. As for degree of difficulty in making the call correctly, I've not seen that as an issue in the years that I've been watching diving scores in lacrosse. Yes, sometimes the dive score gets a whoop from the crowd one way or the other, but no more than any other situation. The game of Lacrosse is fast and furious and thereby creates ample opportunity for officiating errors, but no more so than hockey or basketball or any other fast moving sport. The long and short of it is that every lacrosse player fully understands the associated risks. There also exists an understanding of the stregths and weaknesses of officiating that can be found in any arena at any level. So don't remove an exciting and athletically essential component of the game based on those two factors. That would be counter-productive to the beauty of this wonderful heritage that we call Lacrosse. - Matt Primm
I know you are probably sick and tired of hearing people complaining about the abolishment of the dive and their reasons, so I'm not going to get into that. I'm writing you to let you know that I am one more of the many against this rule. I also want you to know that the people complaining about the rule, which is a lot more than not, are "lacrosse". Don't contradict that with a lousy rule. - Joel Houck
I think the death of the dive sucks. The death of the dive sucks because it takes away the most effective way to score a goal cheaply. But when you do a dive shot it looks like a thing of beauty to impress the crowd and your fans. - Laxman
I'm writing in concern to the no dive rule. I see your point as to how it could be come dangerous and hazerdous. It is also an easy way to beat the goalie. Yet, what I belive and I think this goes the same for the NCAA is that we want to promot the game of lacrosse. I think you would agree with me that what draws people to sports are fun, EXCITEMENT and INTENSITY. I have put the last two words in bold because "The Dive" is the type of thing that brings excitment and intesity! So, there for this would bring more people, money and the growth of the sport to the game. Which I belive all lacrosse players would agree with me that this is what we want. I thank you for your time and I hope you take this into much consideration. - Katherine Dalgliesh
The NCAA rules commitee must bring back the dive. It is a key part of the excitement of lacrosse. Referee have been making the call on whether a player entered the crease before or after the ball crossed the goal line for years and they can continue to do it. It is part of the game. In recent years rules have been changed to speed up the game of lacrosse so that it is more attractive to fans. Why now are they taking away a fan attraction. Next we'll eliminate the behind the back shot. Put the dive back and we'll be nicer to the refs. We promise. - Phil Ryan, Vice President, Lacrosse America
The dive shot is the greatest most exciting part of the game for bolth the players and the fans. If the player scores, it's a fancy shot. If he's decked, it is also great to see. - Schott
As a player who is now playing in my thirteenth year I am absolutely disappointed. Most of the exiting action is the diving around the cage. What is the rationale to getting rid of the dive? - a player
Taking away the crease is terrible. It eliminates the inside roll almost completely, it will not be any easier for the referees to call anything, now they have to look twice as hard for pushes. Whoever makes these decisions obviously is a coach because coaches tend have difficulty seeing the excitement in lacrosse past all the coaching mumbo jumbo. If it is to look out for goalies than take a survey of goalies ask them how the feel. The only way they will disagree is if their defense isn't any good and they can't think of a better excuse of why they get shelled. If the goalie is any good he knows that is one of the easiest saves in the game. If people are worried about the goalie make it NO Contact with the goalie in the crease. - Joe High ( and the rest of the sea gulls!)
I think that that sucks. last year that is how I scored almost all of my goals. - a player
I think this is a great rule. I think it covers the problem of interference with the goalie. (i.e. making contact with the goalie while he is in the crease) I feel that it is a safety issue not only for the goalie but for the shooter. In my opinion the game can live without it and the players that do this type of shot can learn to adjust where they land. - Rich Barnes
I feel that this new rule takes away from the game. I am an attackman and middie for the University of Notre Dame and this new call takes away from my offensive game as well. I think that this new rule is the same as taking away the dunk in basketball, you just can't do it. - Chris Bystedt
The people who made the rule have obviously never played lacrosse. They dont understand that this is an important time period in the growth of the game, and that "the dive" was attracting a huge audience. Gary Gait and Doug Knight wouldn't be in the record books without it. (Well, maybe they would,) but the wouldn't be where they are today. KEEP THE DIVE ALIVE! - Evan
I'm an avid Lax Fan, a parent with 2 sons playing this exciting sport. Over the years the safety of the sport has given me great concern. I don't think the safety equipment requirements are strict enough, especially for younger players. Requirements to wear helments, mouth guards, gloves, and shoulder pads is great, but is anyone looking at the quality of these products? There are some very good protective products on the market. Helmets have to be ceritfied and that's good, but some of the shoulder and arm pads offer little or no protection ranging from high tech to foam.
I do agree that the officials are put in a difficult position making calls on the dive through the crease, but is this a reason to disallow such a move? I disagree with the killing the dive over a safety concern. If a player wants to fly through the air to get a shot whether it's in the crease or not, they leave themselves open for attach and this in itself is dangerous. If you tell them they can't do it in the crease, what's stopping them from doing it just outside the crease. - Jackie
The NCAA may be correct that the no diving rule will help to reduce injuries and make it easier on the officials to call the game, but something that the committee must realize is that taking diving out of the game would be to take not only a huge exciting part of the game away, but it would also take away a great deal of goals. This rule is also going to affect a large amount of players. Just think, if you made this rule a few years earlier people like Doug Knight would never have been as good, but instead he helped to revolutionize this ever-changing game. I know I do not speak only for myself when I say that this rule should be changed back to what it was originally. - Amy Falcinetti
I love the dive and there is no way it should be disallowed - A reader
I read the whole report by the ncaa. It truly saddens me how the ncaa is changing the great game we know and love so dearly. Lacrosse is growing rapidly in Ohio where I play. My friends ask me to tell them about it, and the first thing that comes to mind is that it's the greatest sport, period. But now, with all the new changes such as taking away the dive, as well as many others, I feel that if things like this keep happening, lacrosse is going to be in trouble. - B. Doran,15, Cincinnati, Ohio
I'm glad to see someone standing up for the excitement in the most exciting game on earth! Tell 'em it's BS! -J. Locke
The dive shot is one of the plays that makes lacrosse what it is today. Lacrosse has evolved and come so far from being a preppy rich sport to a major spectator event and the dive shot has raised the bar for Lacrosse as a whole. To take away the dive shot is to limit lacrosse's unparalleled growth.
It would be a travesty to take away the one thing that most lacrosse fans come to see: spectacular plays. I love talking with my friends the next day about, "Did you see Casey Powell do that?" or "I can't believe Jesse Hubbard did that!" I don't know but I love watching attackman streak towards the goal hoping they'll do a dive shot. And when they do, that's the best feeling in the world. - Mike Connolly
I personally think that the Air Gait should be kept in the game. That move was the most exciting play in all of lacrosse. I think that the game will not be as fun or exciting without it. - Howard Bryerton
THE DIVE IS AN ESSENTIAL PART OF THE GAME OF LACROSSE. AS A COLLEGIATE ATTACKMAN I KNOW THE EFFICACY OF THE MOVE AND THE AMOUNT OF SKILL REQUIRED TO EFFECTIVELY EXECUTE THIS MOVE. I HAVE BEEN HEARING THAT "THE DIVE" GIVES THE ATTACKMAN AN UNFAIR ADVANTAGE. IN RETORT OF THAT ARGUEMENT, HOW IS IT THAT DEFENDERS ARE PERMITTED TO USE SIX FOOT POLES WHERE THE OFFENSIVE PLAYERS ARE FORCED TO USE POLES SOME TWO FEET SHORTER. ALSO, I HAVE HEARD THAT THIS RULE WAS GOING TO BE ENACTED DUE TO SAFETY PRECAUTIONS, MAINLY FOR THE GOALIES SAFETY. NOT ONE OF THE GOALIES THAT I HAVE SPOKEN TO, AND I HAVE SPOKEN TO QUITE A FEW, HAVE EVER TOLD ME THAT THEY HAVE EVER FELT THREATENED BY "THE DIVE". IN RETROSPECT, MOST OF THESE GOALIES ARE HAPPY ABOUT THE MOVE BECAUSE IT USUALLY RESULTS IN AN ILLEGAL PROCEDURE AND A FREE CLEAR. IT ALSO MAKES THE DEFENSEMEN BETTER. WHEN ONE MUST DEFEND AN OPPONENT WITH A LARGE ARSENAL, HE TOO MUST DEVELOP TOOLS OF HIS OWN TO THWART THE OPPOSITIONS EFFORTS. NECESSITY IS, AFTER ALL, THE MOTHER OF INVENTION.
NOT MANY ATTACKMAN CAN EXECUTE THE DIVE WITH PRECISION AND GRACE. THOSE THAT DO, ARE REWARDED FOR IT, THE WAY ANY PLAYER SHOULD BE AFTER DEVOTING A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF PRACTICE AND HARD WORK. IT IS ANOTHER INNOVATIVE TECHNIQUE WHICH SHALL BRING LACROSSE TO A NEW LEVEL. AND AS ANY LACROSSE OFFICIANADO KNOWS, LACROSSE NEEDS ALL THE BOOSTS IT CAN GET. BANNING THE DIVE WOULD BE DETREMENTAL TO THE LACROSSE WORLD. IT IS AN ESSENTIAL ELEMENT THAT HAS BEEN CREATED BY THOSE WHO EMBRACE THE GAME AND THEREFORE SHOULD BE UTILIZED BY THEM. - STEPHEN FLOHR
Though as a goalie this rule may benefit me, I still don't agree with it. The dive shot is one of, if not the most exciting scoring plays in lacrosse. Hey NCAA, why not just change the rule to disallow the goal if the offensive player initiates contact with the goaltender as well as any part of the crease before the ball goes in. - Zane Haserot
The "death of the dive" removes one of the more spectacular plays in Lacrosse. If our sport hopes to grow as it has recently, it must also be pleasing to the fan. Lacrosse at the collegiate and post-collegiate level requires an avid fan base to support it. By outlawing a play which fans talk about long after the game is over, we'll be restricting the growth of the game. I don't believe this is in the best interest of the NCAA or the Lacrosse community in general. - Troy Hood, Head Coach @ Webster Groves HS - St. Louis, MO.
I think this is the worst rule ever handed down by the U.S. lacrosse association for several reasons. Primeraly, because it takes away the most exciting part of the game. This creative move draws interest and added excitement to a game which despritely needs attention to grow. Secondly, I have never seen a goolie get hurt or the diving player. So the rationale that the rule will stop injuries is totally bogus because their are no injuries to stop. Thirdly, why are we paying these referees. To make the difficult call. In every sport there are difficult calls to make; the two feet in bounds call in football, the penalty kick call in soccer, and the universal buzzer beater. Why should the crease line be anymore or less dificult to call then the sideline. No matter what the call the referee will always be the hero or the goat. This is there time to shine, make the big call. I think this not only hurts the players but shows the U.S. lacrosse's lack of confidence in their referee. Finally, I would like to leave you with this thought. Ask yourself, what would basketball be without Michael Jordan's dunk? That is exactly the impact this call had on the excitement of and future of NCAA lacrosee. - Marcus Mayus
They can't be serious about getting rid of the dive. Is there anyway to stop this rule, like a petition or something? If you have any info on that I would really appreciate it. - John S.
There is a petition forming and will be available soon on the Save The Dive Drive site, which is organized and run by college players.
I think making the crease dive illegal is one of the worst I deas that has ever been presented to the game of lacrosse. I can understand how they say it could be dangerous, but theres nothing like the feeling when you put a wicked move on your defender and making a dive into the crease to score the winning goal in over time in the state championship game. if they're taking the dive away, what are they going to ban next? body checking? - B. Doran
In all honesty, the removal of the dive can be compared to the banning of slam dunks in basketball. the dive and the dunk add spectacular dimensions of creativity and excitement for the viewer, the team, and the player. imagine basketball with only lay-ups, as compared to the dunk-fest that today's viewer is accustomed to. granted, dives are far less in occurrence than the dunk, which gives it an aura of rarity and makes the dive so special. considering all the potential dangers, according to the NCAA, how about no jumping at all, since jumping can contribue to long term lower-back injuries or injured ankles. and we better stop running too, because of those nasty shin splints or knee injuries. the NCAA should realize that lacrosse players are extreme in action because of passion for their sport. and by killing of the dive, the NCAA tells me that intensity and willingness to sacrifice the body for the goal is not accepted. - Kenneth
Upon reading the opinions of many other fellow players and coaches I agree that the dive shot is indeed one of the most exciting plays of the game today. Many respondants point to the interest of the fan in opposing the outlaw of the dive, but the fact that this rule is getting very little support from current college players makes one wonder who is pulling the strings here. They say it is dangerous, but were are the injury stats.
They say it will make it easier on the refs, but it seems to me that it would be easier to determine if a player leaves his feet from in or out of the crease on a dive shot than to make the call that will become prevalent with this new rule. By that I mean that this rule will not really eliminate the dive shot, it will simply pull it back away from the cage. Players will still dive to the goal, that last burst that a dive provides is a powerful finishing move. But now they will start the dive away from the goal and make sure they don't land in the crease. Now the refs will have to decide if the player actually landed in the crease, was pushed in once in the air, fell outside the crease then rolled in after the goal, it just creates a whole new string of looks for the refs. How do you make a game simpler by adding rules? It just doesn't make sense. - Ben Mrva
Dangerous yes. But it is one of those things that make the game so appealing to watch. I have yet to see a player get injured whilst attempting a dive shot, although I am sure that some of them do. Nobody forces a player to perform the shot, it is their own choice. And I do not see how the goalkeeper is a t much risk either.
The way I see it is that tke outs are far more dangerous. Would the NCAA like to outlaw those aswell? Then maybe a hard poke check will not be allowed, and then who knows what else. - Shiraz Habib, English Universities Lacrosse
The elimination of the "dive shot" in men's lacrosse is one of the greatest changes to the rules of the sport in recent memory. Removing this shot from a player's repertoire because of the danger element is equivalent to telling all magicians that they can no longer cut their assistants in half because someone might get hurt. The sport of lacrosse is perfect as it stands, and any alteration to its rules can therefore only make it worse. I would like to speak on the behalf of all serious college lacrosse players and tell you that the danger element is a part of the game that we live with and even enjoy. We know it is easy to get hurt- every time we put on our helmets we see the sticker telling us about the risk of death or paralysis that is inherent in the sport of lacrosse. We accept responsibility for whatever may happen on the field of play.
The argument that the dive shot has been eliminated because players get hurt is a weak one. Injury is part of the sport of lacrosse, and those athletes who fear injury usually just play baseball. Did the NCAA poll lacrosse players to find out if they supported the rule change? My guess is that they did not, and as a result, you have probably received a landslide of email telling you that the NCAA screwed up.
Please tell the NCAA that if they wish to change the rules of sports to prevent injury, they should really steer clear of lacrosse, because we like the sport the way it is. If the NCAA wants to prevent injuries in men's sports, they should start with men's gymnastics and OUTLAW THE POMMEL HORSE! This would be a much better use of their time because a) the pommel horse emasculates dozens of aspiring men each year, and b) the pommel horse is annoying to watch on television.
The individuals who voted for this rule change have made a grave mistake. Perhaps the NCAA should worry more about athletics and less about insurance premiums. - Joe Ogletree, Haverford College '00
It's ridiculous that the NCAA would result to such action because of officials' inability to make correct calls. Although it doesn't happen in every game, the dive is part of lacrosse, not as a sport but as a tradition. Without the dive, with what will we be able to remember great innovators of the game, like the Gaits. You can just strike a part of a game away. Here's an idea. Why not get rid of dunking. Or better yet, why not get rid of the two-point conversion in NCAA football? It's all the same. All I can say is that "Another One Bites the Dust". - Jared Joiner, Maryland
First off I wasn't aware of any problem with the dive shot. Your response to the many complaints, from what I read on the e-lacrosse web page, is the difficulty that the officials were having with making the calls on players jumping over the crease to score. Well, I disagree with this because it's the official's job to be prepared and trained to make the right calls. So if there is to be any changes it should be with the training of compitant officials before they step on the field just like the players are. If lacrosse is going to revolutionize into a big time sport we are going to need officiating that can keep up with the fastest game on two feet. Right now your allowing the officials to change the sport of lacrosse. Instead, this committee has opted to change the game of lacrosse to accomidate bad officiating. Doing this is only going to hurt the expansion, excitement (watch Doug Knight), and marketing aspects that the dive shot has to offer the game I love and play at the U.of Penn. - A Player
Banning the "dive" is akin to banning the "dunk" in basketball which was done for a short while but was eventually restored. Lacrosse is gaining popularity, and this is in part because of it's speed, contact and exciting plays like the "dive", banning the dive will hinder it's appeal to spectators. Basically the most exciting play in the sport is being taken away! Anytime the crowd sees a goal scored by the dive they go nuts. I don't know that injuries are increased as a result of this play, but having watched hundreds of games, my guess is that it is a relatively safe play. Please restore this play and keep this game growing in excitement! - Steve Small
The dive, in my opinion, is without a doubt, one of the most exciting things to watch in all of sports. Taking it away would be like banning slam dunks from basketball, and using the lame excuse that it's to dangerous makes this rule a hundered time worse. Why not just ban checking in lacrosse, that's just as dangerous. Because checking is a natural part of the game? Well, so is the attackman's desire to sacrifice his body in order to score. - John S.
As a defenseman, there's nothing I enjoy more than dealing with an attackman who is so reckless with his own safety as to barrel around and pounce into the ground. As far as I'm concerned, an offensive player who beats himself up like that makes my job easier in the long run. As for the goalie's safety: Come on! They're goalies, they are supposed to stand in front of fast moving dangerous things. It's not like they could do any damage through modern helmets and what must be very thick skulls. - Jake
I think the dive should be allowed. It's a way to get a good shot on goal. The game is dangerous in the first place. - A fan
Though as a goalie this rule may benefit me, I still don't agree with it. The dive shot is one of, if not the most exciting scoring play in lacrosse. Hey NCAA, why not just change the rule to disallow the goal if the offensive player initiates contact with the goaltender as well as any part of the crease before the ball goes in. - Zane
I really think that the dive in the crease is a very athletic move and shows the ability and skills of a good lacrosse player. What do you think that Doug Knight would have done without being able to dive acrosse the crease? It is possible for an injury but lacrosse is a sport where you could get injured if you take the dive out or not. - Ryan Small
I think the dive shot should be saved. It's the lacrosse equivalent of basketball's slam dunk and adds a certain excitement to the game. Dive shots are fairly rare, and it's very exciting witnessing a successful one. Where would players like Doug Knight be without their dive shot? I think this rule is padding the undeniably rough element of lacrosse, and rough is how lacrosse players like it! - Henzie
As a goalie, i belive that the NCAA should be concerned about the safety of the players when a shooter dives into the crease. However, it is a very hard shot and is one of the more exciting parts of lacrosse. I disagree with the new rule, but some measures should be taken. In my opinion, the rule would be better if the goal was overruled only if the shooter actually touches the goalie.
I also disagree with the new NCAA rule that does not allow "possesion saving" timeouts. I think that this is one part of the game where good coaching really shows, and a call for a time out that is not meant to be possesion saving could easily be misunderstood for one that is.
These two new rules could effect the way lacrosse is played drastically, and the NCAA is trying to take away the best parts of lacrosse, in the case of the new crease rule. - Mooney
I must drop a word on the new NCAA rule of disallowing a goal if the player lands in the crease after. I think this rule is absurd! The dive shot is a part of lacrosse history perfected by one of the most famous lacrosse players of all time (Gait) and continued by some of the lacrosse greats of today (Doug Knight).
Having read other players responses to this ruling I would have to agree that the NCAA is tinkering a little too much here, if it ain't broke don't fix it! After reading countless letters and an overwhelming dissapointment of players and fans alike, I wonder who proposed this rediculous rule change? If the NCAA supported this rule change with some statistics of how many players are hurt compared to the total number of dive shots that might provide some kind of reasoning. I believe this would be a tough set of statistics to compile but I am sure that the frequency of players hurt performing this shot is very low.
Let's keep this sport a contact sport as long as the players are happy and they aren't getting hurt on a regular basis. I have seen no evidence that this shot is more dangerous than any other action in the game of lacrosse. I urge everyone with an opinion on this ruling to voice your opinion to the NCAA. - Bryan Harmsen, Colorado State Lacrosse
Hi, My name is Frank Criado and I am 15 years old. I play lacrosse at St. Paul's School in Maryland. I think that the dive shot should be allowed because, for some players, it is their best offensive weapon. If the dive shot had been banned two or three years ago, Dough Knight would not have as many records, goals or popularity. There are many players today who rely on the diving move. I think that it shold be allowed as long as the player does not make any initial contact with the goalie. I think that the refs should have complete control on wether to call a crease violation or the goal if good. I am not sure how this could be made easier for a ref, but no one ever said the ref's job was easy. - Frank
I think the rule is very unclear. The rule says that a player can't enter the crease with either or both feet on his own momentum, but when you dive you dont land on your feet. Is it o.k. to dive and land on your head as long as you keep your feet up? The rule sucks! Thay say diving is dangerous, but how save is it when you have a 200 pound defenceman running at you with his stick straight out trying to put it through your midsection. The dive is part of the game and by no means the most dangerous part of the game. The dive helps make lax such a cool sport, it shouldn't banned. - The Loyers
It is not the responsibility of the Commitee to decide whether or not such a offensive practice is right or wrong. In terms of its dangerousness, yes, I can see the concern. Yet Lacrosse is an extremelly physical sport. If the ban diving into crease they may go as far as to extend the crease outward maybe 3 yards, because beleive me that is where the majority of dangerous contact in lacrosse occurs. As a player myself I am aware of the rules and of the responsiblity each player holds, in terms of their own well-being etc.
Secondly, lacrosse is one of the few sports where everything is based on the referees decision. In many sports, such as Hockey, all play stops as referees analyze video footage on certain plays, especially diving the crease. While the commitee wants to keep up this fast-paced aspect of lacrosse by eliminating such an ordeal, they must remember that lacrosse's pace is also the reason it is dangerous. - Phillip Patterson
Lacrosse needs to gain in popularity outside of the usual hotbeds in N.Y. and the South. The dive shot is one thing a novice to the sport can learn to love. Please reconsider your vote. - Father of an All- American
I say that taking away the dive limits the offensive capabilities of the attackman and midfielders. When defensemen began to use titanium poles their game improved dramatically. the offensive player had to adapt, douug knight was the first recognized player to use the crease dive in an attempt to level the playing field between the attackmen and the titanium equipped defensemen. I think that for the continued evolution of this great game the crease dive must be allowed. If it is gone for ever, it takes some of the beauty out of the game. - Michael Ermer
I'm sorry but for somebody who has grown to love a sport that I never had an opportunity to play, I believe you have removed one of the most exciting moves in the world of sports. From all of the games I have watched at all age levels, I have never observed any player hurt from "diving into the crease" in an attempt to score a goal. Actually, the player most likely to get hurt performing this move is the person attempting the dive! (and not the long sticks, defensive middies, etc.) Please NCAA, leave the "dive" alone. - Kevin Walsh
I was looking over what other people have written about the dive shot, and I have never seen such a one-sided unreasoned discussion. I thought I was reading the minutes from some religious revival: "The NCAA is killing lacrosse ... by outlawing the dive shot." Calm down and get real. I, too, have found the dive shot occasionally exciting, but many times I have felt like it was a sort of cheap goal. Plus, I don't know that the dive shot is entirely outlawed, just not into the crease. Dive all you want six inches outside of the crease! Just stay out of it. And I think this is reasonable. To me, the crease should be a three dimensional cylinder, not just a circle on the ground. It is reasonable to me that we give goalies a break against cheap shots (the odds they face in close-in situations are already difficult enough), and also require the offense or offensive player to *earn* the goal. If he can't get it nine feet away, forget him. Just wanted to give another opinion. - T. Kight
The dive has historically been one of the more exciting ways to finish a one on one. Players who use it as an offensive tool are known for giving all they have, and more to give their teams an advantage. The dive is an unconventional way to beat a defender. It's also a crowd pleaser. The reason people watch this game is for it's flow and excitement. I disagree with any attempt to limit creative options on the field. Of course the safety of players should be first priority, but I don't think the dive falls into a category such as cutout palms or pocket depth. Let the players create. - Laxpup
Keep it. part of the fun as goalie is it's just you the offenesive player and were he puts the ball on you. - a goalie
I think the dive is one of the neatest ways to score. I don't think they should get rid of it. - Peter Trentman
This is crazy. The "Dive" makes the game much more exciting. Just as the offensive players have evolved to be able to make the dive, so can the defense evolve and develop suitable defense against the dive. Keep the dive if you want the sport to grow and reach more of an audience. Let the players play. If you don't want to get hurt, don't play. - Gary S. Davis
This sucks, man. that was one of the best ways people could score. some people have used that throughout their whole career. its a different way of just shooting and the fans love to see that. now instead of scores of 20-15 they will drop because 6 of those goals will be disallowed. It's a shame that they have to disallow such a fun way to score. - A fan
No jumping in the crease? What is this, girls lacrosse? Its the best part of the game, and anyone who has ever been a goalie knows that a person diving in the crease and hitting you hurts no more, if not less, than someone cranking as hard as they can at you. This is the reason that we wear pads and helmets, what is next, no body checks or hitting anything other than a persons stick? We play lacrosse because we know and like it the way it is. I think that we -the players and coaches- should have a say, not a bunch of people at the NCAA that the rule doesn't affect. Anyway, has anyone ever gotten seriously hurt by someone jumping in the crease?..i think not..the goalie getting hit in the crease hurts no more that getting hit in the hand as hard as someone can check you. - John
I think the new rule is just about the dumbest thing I've ever heard of. Diving is a new element to the game and to not allow it restrains players from showing off their acrobatic and athletic talents, not only to their competitors but to the fans. As a fan I loved to watch players make dives and score amazing goals, thanks to this new rule that is no longer possible. Excuse me I'm crying a little, I have to get a tissue.
I think killing the dive shot is rediculous. If a player is willing to sacrafice his body to score on a high percentage shot than that is his decision. No one should be able to regulate the intensity of a players choice of shots, whether it is a rocket from outside or a courageous dive across the crease. - Joe
The dive has historically been one of the more exciting ways to finish a one on one. Players who use it as an offensive tool are known for giving all they have, and more to give their teams an advantage. The dive is an unconventional way to beat a defender. It's also a crowd pleaser. The reason people watch this game is for it's flow and excitement. I disagree with any attempt to limit creative options on the field. Of course the safety of players should be first priority, but I don't think the dive falls into a category such as cut-out palms or pocket depth. Let the players create. - Laxpup
I am a life long fan of lacrosse. I played for many years. I Have coached in youth leagues, and attend many area college games (Balto/Wash area) including the NCAA championship games.
I was very disappointed to learn that "the dive" has been banned from the game. This play has added a wonderful element to the game. I understand that safety is the factor. The problem is that the game of lacrosse is a very physical game to begin with, and should remain that way. The fast paced action, stick handling and the occasional hit are all part of this great game. Just as the offensive players have been able to evolve to be able to make the dive, so can the defense evolve and develop an effective defense against the dive.
The game has certainly evolved from its origins and I don't think you should be hindering future growth of the sport by banning such plays. Atheletes are becoming stronger and faster as time goes on. Its only logical that sports evolve with them. Others sports (basketball, football, baseball) have certainly taken into consideration "the changing athelete" as they develop and market their sport.
If you want the sport to grow and reach larger more diverse audiences you must leave in dynamic action. Let the players play. Let the sport grow. - Gary S. Davis
The dive should stay. The whole reason you have refs is to make the judgment calls, anyone can make easy calls. I'm sure that we all have been part of a game were a ref makes a tough call that ultimately has impact on the scoreboard. I think the best solution is to take a page from baseball (note: I hate baseball, but they have already addressed these kinds of issues), tie goes to the runner. The NCAA should decide that if the refs are unsure it should always go to the offense or always go the defense.
I also find it interesting that Dom Starsia was on the committee that came up with this. I wonder what his thoughts are considering that his teams have made a living with this play.
I also agree with Baldo,the NCAA has a bigger problem with teams that hold onto the ball in the fourth quater. I think the last 5 minutes of the Princeton-Duke semifinal in '97 was some of the most boring lacrosse I have every seen. - Shawn Gordon
Recently, the NCAA created a rule that effectively made it illegal for an offensive player to dive into the crease, even if his shot enters the goal before he touches the ground. The reasoning given is that it will prevent injury and make the official's job easier. This is equivilent to the NCAA eliminating the slam dunk in basketball because too many players are hurting themselves. The fact is that very few lacrosse players injure themselves or others by diving at the goal. Lacrosse is a contact game. NCAA Men's Lacrosse is a contact game involving 200 pound athletes who can legally run each other over and hit each other with their sticks. The danger in playing lacrosse is for the most part caused by intentional body checks, not by jumping into the crease.
I am a current NCAA lacrosse player and I have played the game for over ten years. In the thousands of games that I have played in and the hundreds more that I have watched, I can never recall a serious injury suffered during a dive shot. I have seen dives cause plenty of bruises, and knock the wind out of a few players, but nothing more than that. On the other hand, I have seen and experienced multiple serious injuries due to other parts of the game. The truth is that by killing the dive, the NCAA has not done much to increase safety.
Additionally, I feel that it is not right to change a rule to make the official's job easier. This new rule has changed an integral part of lacrosse; something that should not be changed just because it is hard to see whether the ball crosses the plane before the player hits the dirt. I didn't hear an overwhelming amount of complaining about calls on dives before, so I see no reason to tamper with the rules now.
Lastly, eliminating the dive takes something special away from the game. I am a fan of all sports, and I do get excited over a good serve in tennis or a close finish at a track meet. But the diving shot in lacrosse is like a home run, a slam dunk, or a hail mary on fourth down at the end of the game. It is a defining moment, often the strongest memory fans take away from a close game. Personally, I will never forget the 1996 NCAA final four. Johns Hopkins and Virginia staged a war. The two teams killed each other all day. And the one thing I remember most vividly is Doug Knight's dunk in the fourth quarter. He came in from the left side, dove, faked once low and stuck his shot in the upper corner past Blue Jay goalie Jon Marcus. It was the kind of moment in sports that even newcomers to lacrosse can appreciate. The battered player sacrificing his body one last time to score late in a close game.
Please, legalize the dive once again. The elimination has not helped the sport in any way, and has taken away one of the many things that make lacrosse the best sport in the world. - Dan Hauber
Get rid of the dive completely, although I do admit that it looks good offensively. I, being a goalie, would be concerned about my safety in the crease. The dive has the potential of putting a goalie or anyone in the crease out of action for a long period of time.
The change I suggest is that if a player dives through the crease for any reason, a crease violation must be called and, if applicable, the appropriate penalty or penalties must be called strictly. - A.J. Magnaye
With rumors of the face-off getting the axe for promoting "rough play," I would gladly sacrifice the dive-shot to keep the face-off. The dive shot has evolved in lacrosse as an exciting, but rarley seen part of the game; the face-off IS lacrosse. - T. Smith
I think it stinks. I think the dive shot, such as the move by Doug Knight, brought a new and exciting element to the game. - A fan
Personally I think this new ruling is ridiculous. One problem is "supposedly" being taken care of, but a whole new problem and potential bending of the rules results.
The way I understand it now with the new ruling, an offensive player cannot set one or two feet into the goal/crease area after the shot due to momentum carrying that player into the goal. We ALL know officials NEVER make EVERY call correct; it is a fact that any athlete and/or sports fan must realize and deal with. There are some EXCELLENT officials out there, but no one is perfect or can see everything. Creating this rule adds more ambiguity to the call. Some officials I'm sure will call any type of dive, others will only call it if feet touch, and some will be indecisive or unsure if a player hits is knee or maybe his foot first. Any possible number of scenarios can result that will depend on the officials interpretation of the rule. Case in point... soccer. I've seen officials call offsides (at all levels of play) based upon players locations when the ball is kicked and others upon where the ball is in relation to the offensive and defensive players regardless of when the ball is kicked. It's a difficult call having to watch the ball and several players from each team moving in different directions on different locations of the field, yet one linesman makes the call. It only takes one official to watch one lacrosse player dive through one crease in the center of the field and see when his body hits the goal/crease area and when the ball is released. It's not hard and isn't going to be made any easier when now, the official has to determine if it was the players momentum or a defenseman's check that carried the offensive player into the goal/crease area and then watch to see if his foot, arm, shoulder, stick, knee, foot, etc. hits the ground first. COME ON, the call isn't going to be made any easier.
As for the supposed danger of the move, what about baseball players climbing the wall to catch a homerun. Or maybe they should be required to completely stop running at the dirt track and not sacrifice his body by slamming it into the wall making an incredible, self sacrificing out. How about a wide receiver jumping as high as he can to make an incredible catch while a free safety comes flying in at mach 1 slamming into the receivers back potentially cracking a few ribs, bruising a kidney, or maybe flipping the receiver head over heals landing square on his head. I won't go on with more examples, but we all play sports knowing the inherent risks involved. I'm a defenseman and this past season got hit with with about an average of 3-4 shots per game. If I were a goalie, I'd be more concerned with far more shots than that flying at 80+ miles per hour straight at me than a guy diving into my crease. A man flying horizontally through the air with one objective (to put a ball in a goal) leaves the majority of his body open to sacrifice while taking the shot. He's not trying to or can even get solid contact with the goalie unless the goalie initiates it. As for the offensive player, if he dives, he's knowingly taking that risk.
I urge you, keep the sport how it is and quit changing it, we (lacrosse players) like it how it is and don't want change. It's hard enough for officials to make calls now, why keep changing the rules and continually require them to make different calls year to year. Who cares about things like "sudden victory overtime" or God forbid we have to walk out to the middle of the field when our name is announced for tournament introductions. But PLEASE reconsider this rule and for that matter, any future rules which significantly change the style of the game and some of its top players. Especially when those rules have as much ambiguity and flexibility as the game did without them. - Philip Quinnett
It's terrible. - Paul Wilkenson
I am twelve years old and live in Massachusetts. I am part of the Massachusetts all-stars for my age group. On Sunday we played a game against Connecticut. We won the game with forty-five seconds left with a dive. I do not mean to offend you in any way, but I think that the dive shot is one of those things that gives lacrosse players bragging rights over hockey players. For example say a hockey player says, "Yeah, last night we won the championship game. I got the winning goal cuz I came in on a breakaway and plowed three guys over before I scored. Of course I stopped in front of the crease because we can't go there."
Now, at a time like this a lacrosse player can say, "Wow you must be pretty tough. Then again though I scored the winning goal yesterday, I decked a guy, scooped up the ground ball, took it to the cage, jumped as high as I could, and got the ball in the net and landed in the mud. I got up lifted my stick high..........."
So, I think that the dive shot is just one of those things that makes lacrosse such an exciting sport, and I as well as a lot of other people hate to see it go. I strongly urge you to consider changing the rule back. Thank you for your time. - Ryan Flannery
Sure take out one of the exciting parts of the game. What's next, take out the contact portion. I don't play soccer for a reason. - Jason - Ottawa Lacrosse
I am a Big fan of the dive shot. Matt Hahn had a few this year and they were just awesome! I really hate to see it go, but I also understand the reasoning. - #1 Terp Fan
No jumping in the crease? What is this, girls lacrosse?...its the best part of the game, and anyone who has ever been a goalie knows that a person diving in the crease and hitting you hurts no more, if not less, than someone cranking as hard as they can at you. This is the reason that we wear pads and helmets, what is next, no body checks or hitting anything other than a persons stick? We play lacrosse because we know and like it the way it is. I think that we -the players and coaches- should have a say, not a bunch of people at the NCAA that the rule doesn't affect. Anyway, has anyone ever gotten seriously hurt by someone jumping in the crease?..i think not..the goalie getting hit in the crease hurts no more that getting hit in the hand as hard as someone can check you. - john
Please stop fooling around with the sport of Lacrosse. Most people I speak with, really think the NCAA is killing the sport, slowly. Too many rules, will kill the game. The dive is part of the game, just as a head first slide is in baseball. Foot ballers dive into the end zone, soccer players head the ball into the goal, Laxers dive into the net. Enough said! - Dave Preece
Save it. Makes the game more fun and interesting and besides I use it all the time when I drive from X. - A Player
I think the dive rule is right. I am a goale and I think they should take it away beacuse I have had a lot of goals scored on me that way. - A goalie
As a goalie I believe that the dive should be legal. If a player wants to hurl is body at the goal and try to score then he is welcome to. He most likely will get drilled by the d-man or the goalie and he will lose possesion. I think it makes the game exciting. Yes the rule will benifit me but I think it is stupid to take the dive away. - TIM
The diving shot should not be banned from lacrosse on the ground of being too dangerous. the sport was founded on the belief that bodily harm was a possibility. Since this is now banned why dont they ban hitting and poke checks. Tthink about how rediculous it is that if you score one of your best goals in the hardest ways and it looks the best, that it does not count! - Najee Mustafa
I am a 5'4'' attack and it is hard to get a good shot off close to the net because of my size and I find one of the best ways for me to score is to use the dive shot how can the NCAA say that it is dangerous when the whole game of lacrosse is dangerous dangerous to who the goalie? the goalie has a ball being fired at him at up to 100mph they might as well just get rid of contact in lacrosse all together this really destroys the game. Its a crock - Ralph from Philadlephia
The dive shot is simply progress and it is dangerous and damaging to any sport or industry to halt progress due to limitations within the existing structure. Certainly, the solution to this situation lies in finding a better way for the officials to make the call. I am amazed and concerned that such a short-sighted view has been taken. - John Hughes
The dive shot must be reinstated. It is a shot that requires a great deal of athleticism and is a beauty to see. It can be performed by a big strong attackman or a quick little attackman. The Salisbury State vs Denison game in 1998 was won on a shot by Salisbury's Scott Walstrum (7) that drew gasps from fans on both side of the field. He clearly left the field well outside of the crease and the beauty of the shot was captured for posterity. The NCAA should let the dive shot live on!!!
I am a supporter of the dive shot. If a guy is willing to sacrifice his body for his team, the NCAA should allow it. The dive shot is a part of the game. - M. Chance
I strongly disagree. What's next? As the shot-speeds increase will the rules committee decide that those are too dangerous? What about hitting? When a player dives into the crease he takes the chance he may get hurt just as any athlete does when they take the field in any sport. Perhaps the officials need to clarify the rule rather than just eliminate the ones they have difficultly with. Basketball has the slam-dunk, hockey has the slap-shot, soccer has the bicycle kick...lacrosse should keep the dive. - T. Farrington
I might point out the biggest penalty for the dive now is that if you miss you are in the crease and you automatically cede possession to the opposition - this to me seems like the main reason why we don't see it that often (as it should be). As a coach, I'd be telling my players not to use it unless I had someone with a GREAT MOVE who could be sucessful over 80% of the time - otherwise I'd just be relinquishing the ball to the defense.
As for the referees, isn't this why we have two and sometimes three- one to watch the ball and one to watch other things like whether the man is in the crease - perhaps in big games there should be three on-field officials plus one in the box
Another point - the guys who concoted this deal wasNOT some NCAA bureaucrat but a panel of D-1 coaches - rather than pelting the NCAA with mail we should be asking these guys what they were thinking! how not to lose to Princeton on an illegal play?
The most important point we should all be worried about with rules is teams like Princeton whose skill level is so high that they can hold the ball for minutes on end and effectively put us all to sleep - that's what the rules committee should be looking at not dive shots and how big the substitution box is- if everyone wants to squawk get a load of the new box with the yellow and green pylons for where people going out and in need to exit and enter - the colors are right why don't we just install a traffic signal instead! I say make substitution free all of the time (like Club and International rules) - eliminate the box official and put him on the field to watch for the dive! - Baldo
As a defensive player in '75 ( 19, not 1875) , I remember the relative ease of shutting out the top scorer in the Penn/Jersey area by going one-on-one with him all game ... with the non-existance of the so-called "dive shot" , I smoked him! Use of the crease and positioning shut him down ... every one patted me on the back ... yeah rah ... over twenty years later, I can just picture that guy as my worst nightmare , if the dive shot had been around ... what a rush to shut him down it would have been, if I would have had to watch out for his dive shot ... to have to "stick him" in mid-air or get "blistered by his heat" as he went by and through my butt ... to stuff a "diver" in the net ... Do NOT "rule-out" the DIVE ... I only wish I could still be in the game ... I'd love to take the hit; or clean him out of the air to protect the crease ... that's why we played the game back then ... it was the fastest game on two feet with the hardest hitting sumabit*hes a guy could find (outside of Navy Seals) playing the way the big dogs like to play ... SACK THE DIVE RULE , NOT THE DIVE! Send the un-intelligent ref's home and train some with a brain, ones that can figure it out ... duh ... the "offside" rule in soccer is far tougher to call ... If the ref's are too stupid to figure it out, let them become "figure skating" judges ... that's all political ... let those politicians go politic ... elsewhere ... let the Big Dogs run! It is the players game ... if you're afraid of getting hurt ... GET OUT OF THE GAME! If you're too stupid to figure out the call ... DON'T BE A REF! If the NCAA can't figure it out ... PULL THE TEAMS BACK TO "CLUB" LEVEL and ... PLAY ON WITHOUT THEM! WHO RAH! - Bucy, The Hill School '75
I believe that it is a shame that this has been taken away. Originality and creativity are tyow components of today's game that make it so interesting and apealing to people outside the game. Being a goalie, this rule does benefit me. But I don not believe that it benefits the game of lacrosse. - A fan
What's the point of having a ref at the game if every call is going to be blatentely obvious anyway? If a player has enough strength, and ball control to dive past his defense-men and the goalie, hold the ball and put it the cage, he should be praised. The committe already ruined the air-gait (the ball has to be in the cage before the stick hits the pipe). Why are they trying to ruin another? - Liam Cerveny, Shoreham-Wading River Lacrosse
I have been involved with lacrosse for over thirty years as a player on every level of the game and as a coach. I played goalie for over twenty years. I see at least 10 college games every year. So I feel entitled to opine on the dive into the crease issue. (does't mean i have anything intelligent to say though).
I support the new ruling. Goals scored in that fashion are almost always illegal. See the clip of Princeton's tying goal in 1997 semifinal with Duke. I would bet you if we used instant replay most goals would be disallowed.
As a goalie you are trained to block the shot, thus on a dive into the crease, you must block the body of the shooter. I cannot recall any goalie ever getting hurt this way but I assure you it is just a matter of time. The force of, let's say, 185lbs with inertia slamming into the legs of a stationary goalie (remember goalies are trained to block) is not one for knees to absorb. The action is akin to a chop block in football.
Furthermore most referees do not call interfence with the goalie which almost always occurs when a shooter dives into the crease. An opposing player cannot touch the goalie when the goalie is in the crease. That is the rule and always has been. Think of the sequence. Shooter drives to cage, goalie hugs pipe. Shooter leaps to dive and shoot, goalie steps to meet shooter. Shooter in air, hits goalie. Has the ball gone in the goal yet? Did the goalie extend out to check shooter while he still had ball in crease? If so, that is interference with the goalie...but that never gets called. That is wrong.
Now, so you don't think I am 50 years old, or b) 100 years old, or c) too old to remember to have fun, let there be a dive shot! Just not into the crease.
I don't know if you ever saw him play but Terry Corcoran had a great dive shot when he played at Hobart. Scored an awful lot of goals with it too. It was exciting. But he never violated the crease or the goalie's protection. - Peter Cordrey
Keep The Dive. Its the exciting uncertainty that helps keep lacrosse on the cutting edge. The unpredictable dive keeps the game thrilling. - A fan
I think the new rule sucks. It gives too much of an advantage to defensemen and makes the game or people who do the move less exciting. - A fan
I think that really sucks I wanted to try it in a game now i can't
The new anti-dive rule says you can't land in the crease with either or both feet from your own momentum, right? I have two questions.
1. When you dive, you usually land on your shoulder/ hip area, not directly on your feet. does the rule mean your feet cant go in the crease at all? I dont think it's that clear.
2. The way it is now, officials seem like they flip a coin to decide whether to call a push in the back or in the crease when a player misses a dive shot. (key example, Mike Bonnani pushing Jesse Hubbard into the crease in the championship?...I dont think so!) I agree that it is a difficult call to make, but wont it be just as difficult to decipher between a player deliberately diving in the crease and a player being pushed? - Charlie Pugh
The elimination of the crease dive is horrible for the sport. the crease dive is one of, if not the most exciting and sweet shots in the damn game! the rules change will probably take away from interest in the sport and the fun in watching lax. besides, who the hell made the ncaa the end all be all of lacrosse rules anyway? also, this is a defeat for the history of the game. What did gary and paul have to say about this? I guess that doesn't matter! - A Reader
I think that the rule is questionable. I used to play Goalie, and I now play attack. From the goalie view, I think that it helps them out very much. However from the attack view, I think it sucks, because I like to dive the crease because it's confuses the goalie as to where your going to place the ball, and he most times can't stop it. I gues know I'll have to dive at an angle to make sure I don't land in the crease. - Brian
Personally I think that the dive is a very big part of the game. It adds much more excitement and pace to the game. It takes alot of nerve to even try and attempt to make a diving goal, and I feel that it should be kept a part of the game. Make the game faster, and not bogged down with little penalties such as this. Do they take sliding away from baseball? or a diving touchdown catch? Remember that we chose to play lacrosse because it was a hard, skilled and contact sport unlike any other on earth. Let's not change that.
Please do not blame the refs for this change in the game. We had nothing to do with the new rule. Each year, the lacrosse officials waste hours of time figuring out new rules set by the NCAA. Until US Lacrosse steps in and gets one set of rules for all levels of play, the game will have a hard time growing. We are the only game, I believe, that has different rules for each level of play. Think about football, basketball, baseball, soccer and even volleyball are there different sets of rules because of the level of play. Go to international rules and let the game be played as the fastest game on two feet. The NCAA makes changes without consulting participants of the game. Why not have a trial period during preseason for any major rule change to the game. Someone has to control this group before it gets out of hand and completely ruins the game. - Please do not print my name do to repercussions from the NCAA.
I am extremely opposed to the ruling on the diving shot in lacrosse. I am sure that you have heard all the arguments already so I will spare you the pain. However, as a goalie myself, I can tell you that I never feared a man diving into my crease as a matter of my personal safety. As some have noted, the diving shot is not dissimilar from the slam dunk or any more dangerous than an outfielder or wide receiver diving for a ball. Most diving shots are from close range and thus a do not occur at the speed or reach the height of perhaps a diving wide receiver. Lacrosse, as any other sport, is not only a display of athleticism but also of creativity and ingenuity. By making these sort of rulings, you limit this game and threaten others. Referees have jobs because these sort of rulings need to be made. I am strongly opposed to these rulings! - Paul J. Summers, Jr.
I would strongly urge the NCAA to reconsider their position on changing the rule concerning an offensive players ability to "dive" towards the goal in an attempt to score.
I have been a player, coach and fan of lacrosse for over 10 years. I do not see this as being a serious issue towards player safety. As far as the officials having difilculty making the correct call, I have 2 comments for that:
1) What is the difference between a ref making a call to decide if a player lands in the crease before the shot goes in or when a player is trying to get a pass off before stepping out of bounds. Substitute any number of other game situations into this question. The officials do a great job of making this call all the time.
2) Difficulty in making the correct call will be compounded by this new rule. It will now be more of a subjective call of whether a player is diving/jumping to the goal or if a defenseman's close physical defense caused him to enter the crease.
The popularity of the sport of lacrosse has been growing tremendously and is not due to any viewer friendly rule making by the NCAA. It is due to the athleticism and creativity of the players and to the greatness of the game itself. I feel that this potential rule severely weakens the sport and I oppose it strongly - Michael Foley
People should be able to dive into the crease. It is not that hard to make the correct call. This will cause the game to become less exciting and the growth of lacrosse will be lessened. It will also enable defensemen to give attackmen total crease side. Before if defensemen did that the attackmen could dive across the crease. Now attackmen can be shut down easily. This would ruin the game. - A Fan
The NCAA should realize to "Dance with who brought ya'." Lacrosse gained a momentum in the late 80's that has yet to stop. This force was due mostly to the Gait Brothers. What exactly was the signiture move of the time? We all know. Apperently, the lacrosse elders have forgotten. Is the NBA going to outlaw the baseline reverse or the fade-away jumper after Jordan retires? I think not. As for safety: We have all chosen a game in which metal shafts get swung at major organs in our bodies, on a regular basis. I think we can handle diving into a crowded little circle. - Josh Rachman, FSU Lax Is it death of the dive or the jump. Feet in the crease seem to be the key. What if a player's momentum carries him into the crease after the score and he wasn't diving? Will that goal be called back? Rarely have officials called defensemen for pushing or "from behind" when an attackman makes a quick move toward the goal, whether he's getting ready to dive, jump, or run across the crease. Now every defenseman will surely push, claiming the offensive player's momentum carried him in the crease. - Charles T. Turner
Where would Micheal Jordan be if he didn't fly through the air and dunk the ball. How about Shaq slaming the ball threw the basket with authority over someone's head. It is a part of basketball just like jumping into the crease [is part of Lacrosse]. So everything that Gary Gait, Marachek, doug Knight have done for this games is down the tubes. Please don't ruin this game. What's next no more behind the back. The officials have got to take one for this game and understand that it is a valuable part of this game. - Jack
What is next? No contact, coed lax. Let the boys be boys, and tell the refs to pay attention.... the players that play the game decide the outcome.... not the refs. If it aint broke dont fix it. Hey NCAA quit messin' with our sport.- Matty #4 of FSU LAX
IT'S SH*T, MAN. - K. Stewart
It would be stupid to take away the dive shot. We (the lacrosse world) need to promote our sport as much as possible, and taking away one of the most exciting shots from the game would be a great loss. My advice to the rules committee before they vote on this, "Take your lips away from the crack pipe". - The Big Kidd
The dive shot has to be the most exciting and athletic move Lacrosse has to offer. If the Rules Committee feels that they have to take the fun out of my sport then I think Ill have to join my sisters women's lacrosse team. Does anyone know where I can get a sex-change, cheap? - Rodman (Dennis?).
Sounds like the dive is NOT dead as long as the shooter lands on his head! As the rule is it may be a tough call for the refs, but that's their job. Sure safety is important but, a 100 mph plus shot could do harm to the goalie than the dive to the shooter. What next "pinkies" for rocks! Don't take the fun and excitment out of the game. - Jack Brown
I think that these losers at the NCAA are trying to kill our game. They want everyone to conform to their ways and don't care about the players or supporters of lacrosse. They must be the biggest bunch of idiots around. They are taking away on of the most exciting part of the game. Who cares if it is hard for the ref to tell if a player shot before he landed in the crease. Maybe the answer is to get some refs that actually pay attention and are able to ref a college lacrosse game. The next thing you know they are going to say you can't run fast or throw the ball fast, because the refs can't keep up and they get tired. Give us a break. The NCAA wants to have a bunch of programed jerks running around doing what they say. Who cares if everyone doesn't walk out to midfield after announcements. It is called originality, the team does what they want. Instead of worrying what they are suppossed to do, they are focusing on the game. They want to suck all the life out of our game. - Jim Lieto
The diving shot is similar to the dunk in basketball and adds a considerable amount of excitement to the game. It should remain a part of the game. - Bob Friesel
I would just like to say that the death of the dive sucks!!!!! I can understand how it may be dangerous but thats all part of lacrosse. Thats all I have to say. - ben
By restricting "The Dive" across the crease, you are also putting a clamp on the creativity and athletic ability of the player. The player takes a risk of missing the shot or landing in the crease. The goalie has the responsibility of knowing a particular player might be able to score at will. What if the NFL decided that they would no longer allow a quarterback sneak? What will the NCAA , in " All of its' infinate wisdom" decide to rule on next? I am sure that there are more pressing concerns within the NCAA. The focus is wrong and this decision is nothing more than political. If the official cant make the call on this, how does he decide what is a "trip" or not? It's the same principal......the player jumped or he tripped...who decides? - A Reader
I think it is a bad idea because I have never seen anyone get hurt from diving, and the dive adds so many more ways to get goals. Althought players could get hurt from diving but it seems limited, a player could get hurt on any play during the game. It is a hard hitting game. - A Fan
This is a ridiculous rule. There is no evidence that leads me to believe that the dive is dangerous to the goalie at all. It is a fun and exciting part of the game. The ncaa will be limiting many great players by doing this. They should worry about other parts of the game that are more dangerous. - A Lax Fan
It blows. - Tom
This new rule disallowing the dive shot is un-friekin'-believable! If those clowns at the NCAA want the game of lacrosse to expand at all then they better think twice about forcing it's growth backwards. The dive shot is one of the most exciting shots in lacrosse. It was the trademark of guys like Mike Watson and Doug Knight, two thirds of one of the greatest attack units in the game. Without the dive shot Gary could never have executed his immensely famous Air-Gait. Thanks to the NEW rule, the goal would have been disallowed because his frieking foot landed in the crease! And what would lacrosse be without the Air-Gait? The only thing that this rule change accomplishes is the stoppage of creativity in the game of lacrosse. There will no longer be any high flying, make or break goals, and there will certainly be fewer oohs and ahhs from the crowds. The next thing you know, the NCAA will decide to DISALLOW THE BEHIND THE BACK SHOT and say it's too difficult for the goalie to save! Give me a break! - ANGRY PLAYER
If the committee thinks the dive is "dangerous" then what are the stats on injuries caused by the dive? What are the officials concerned about when making the call? That the ball may not be in the goal before the diving player hits the ground or that it is just easier to call someone who has stepped in the crease? This is an exciting part of the game and it would be a real setback to have it removed unless tons of players are getting their necks broken doing it. - Mark Brick, Tentawon Lacrosse-Seattle
Oh great! Now our sport is wimpier than Baseball or VOLLEYBALL! - Art
Why is Lacrosse putting up with this? Where is USLacrosse on these types of issues. They just suck up to the NCAA like beggars. - Tommy V.
It is one of the more spectacular shots in the game. The fans and players love it!. If the NCAA were really tuned in to the game, they would understand that. As in any good debate, let the numbers show the truth: How many injuries have occurred from "the Dive". If the refs are having trouble with calling the foul, add another official to the game to better watch the cages. - Tom Mullins
"The committee changed the rule so that if an offensive player deliberately leaves his feet and lands in the crease WITH EITHER OR BOTH FEET, from his own momentum, and his shot goes in the goal, the goal will be disallowed. The change was made because the committee believes that diving toward the goal may be dangerous and because under the old rule (which said that "a player is considered to have entered the goal crease when any part of his body touches the goal-crease area") officials were having a difficult time making the correct call." Doesn't this imply that it is in fact PREFERABLE to dive, since the shooter will NOT land in the crease on his feet? He may land on his shoulder or elbow or knee, but it's almost impossible to dive and land on your feet. I agree strongly that the intent of this rule is awful. If they're worried about kids, encourage the youth and high school leagues to make these adjustments. - T. Vinciguerra
I think that the death of the dive shot is killing a great part of lacrosse. Lacrosse is not only the best game in the world but it is also the most entertaining and the dive shot is a critical component of that entertainment. - Cory McBride
They should definetly allow the dive. That's one of those things that makes lacrosse such a cool sport. You can do anything to get the rock into the net... even dive. It's plays like that which make lax such an exciting sport. - Sean Flannery
I agree with the majority here! The dive shot is perhaps one of the most exciting shots in lacrosse! If there were significant numbers of players getting injured because of it I could understand the reasoning behind changing the rules but it doesn't seem like that's the case. If they think that instituting this rule will make the ref's job easier, think again! Whether or not a player "deliberately" leaves his feet is more of a judgement call that whether he landed in the crease before the ball hits the back of the net. If the NCAA keeps this new rule, they better be prepared to consider instant replay as well. As a ref, I would hate to have to make that call in the last minute of a tied up NCAA title game! - Chief
Like many others i used to go in my backyard after watching an exciting lacrosse game and i tried to do what i saw the great players like Doug Knight, Tim Whitely, and Casey Powell. These great players made dreams happen by risking everything by laying out and sticking a shot in mid-air. It was one of the things that motivated me to play lacrosse. I think that the new rule is going to hurt the game instead of do it any good. Players need that freedom to to stay as creative as they can. If it means having to put another ref on the field to look after the goalies and to look after the crease, do so. Just don't restrict young minds from dreaming and following that dream. I have used the shot and when the crowd roars it is like no feeling in the world. I want everyone to experience that feeling. -Shane Lettau
If this is true, it's an absolute disgrace! The dive shot is probably the most exciting play in college lacrosse. I can't believe they are doing this! This game is really going backwards. Tierney and Princeton have really hurt this game and this kind of rule further plays into their boring style. Remember the late 1980s, early 1990s. Lacrosse was taking off with all of the new, high risk kind of shots. What can be done to stop this rule from being implemented. - A Kissel
What can be done to stop the NCAA from doing this? Is there any way to appeal? This is a total abuse of power. What is their data to support this rule change? This is totally out of left field!! HELP!!!!!! - A Fan
I personally think that this rule is outrageous and stupid. Lacrosse players shouldn't be deprived of their own rights just because refferees can't make accurate calls. How hard is it to tell if the ball goes into the goal before the player's feet touch the ground? Not too hard. Please don't start making this great sport uninjoyable and dull (kind of like women's lacrosse) by changing rules to make make this aggressive and exciting sport a boring and uninteresting one. Shots that are taken by diving are some of the most exciting and heart pounding to watch and I sure hope that the NCAA doesn't take that way. - Metolis
kill it...high schoolers adopt ncaa rules in many leagues. Safety here is key. - D. Travis
I think that the diving rule should be changed so that it reflects more the rule of offensive charging in basketball, so if the offensive player with the ball makes what the official deems intentional and unnecessary contact with the goal keeper, a penalty would be called. - Joe Pappafotis
I think that it is a load of bullsh*t to make that illegal and if I could talk to the person that made up that rule, I would stick my foot up his... - A Fan
Those ..... at the ncaa are so dumb they probably have never played a game of lacrosse in their life. And show me where any players have been hurt in that shot. The worst injury to come from that shot was getting the wind knocked out of you from hitting the ground. As a defensemen I think it is a great shot. - kevin "pist off" jordan
I can't believe this! I have always loved watching guys fly over the crease at they attempt the latest aerial move. This is just plain wrong, I believe in the old saying, let the players play! The answer to your trivia question is C, they are too old to remember (so it could be B, 100 years old, too). Keep up the fight! - Dean
The new rule sucks. Taking away the dive in the crease takes away one of the most exciting and athletic shots in lacrosse. - LS Lacrosse
Its is a horrible idea to kill the dive. I love doing it and I love watching it being done - LaxSip28
It is Bullsh*t. I am mad about the rule change. The dive shot is a move that gives an offensive player an edge on the defenseman. This change will hurt my playing style and most dodging attackmens. This hurts the excitement of the game. The game is perfect how it si why change it now. - Kung15
Cut to the chase and make the boys play with the girls in a soft-lax format. That's what we are doing a step at a time anyway. - Bill Lafferty
I think this is a terrible rule change. I can understand that people would see it as being unsafe for goalies but it should be part of the game.People like to watch stuff that is out of the ordianry like a behind the back shot or a crease dive. It is awesome to see an college player dive in the crease and score during a game. It gets the crowd in to it and also may attract more fans on tv. If the ncaa thinks it is unsafe why dont they make the guys game more like he girls game with no hitting or no hard stick checks. I can't believe they changed this rule. Thank you - C. Morgan
Same old sh*t. - An ex-fan
When will an organization that actually loves lacrosse and wants to see it grow, get to make the big decisions. The NCAA and USLacrosse are obviously keeping the game small on purpose and discouraging new kids from wanting to get in. - P. Hill
Get rid of the NCAA. They hate lacrosse and we hate them. - John R.
This really ticks me off. I will think twice before letting my kids get involved with a game that changes so often. This is a heartbreak, like the killing of the real midfielder in the game. - Arlen Love
Heads should roll !!!!! - Stu
It Sucks! - an angry fan
This is just like when a ref needs to see the impact of his calls on the outcome of a game. These guys need to feel needed so they change things every year. Show me where Goalies are being hurt! Prove it! Ever watch Soccer?! Wonder why they kick our butts in popularity? They don't f**k with a good thing. - Bart
Will this mean the same in High School or club? It is time for Lacrosse to say farewell to the NCAAARP as you called them in April. - Smitty
I was reading that the NCAA committee banned diving accrossed the crease. I think that rule absolutely sucks. Some of the best goals are scored that way. Everyone loves to see a player diving accross the crease just to score a goal. It seems like the NCAA committee is making too many stupid rules. They just need to leave the game the way it is now. - T. Britton
If some coaches like games where physical attributes aren't a factor PLAY CHESS and get out of OUR GAME! And for God's sake don't ruin it on the way out! - Seeger Smith
